I think London meets have become too large to allow people to just turn up and expect people to talk to them, but then that's a mark of their success. If it was only 10 people sat it a pub then obviously it would be easier to talk to people, but the scale just doesn't allow it. That's the same outside the furry World. Case in point being the fetish munch I went to last week. I could've gone to one in London, but I'm told there are usually 170 or so attendees, so it would be really hard to meet people, yet this one had about 30, so was a nice size and I didn't feel like I was intruding. The pre-meet thing is generally a good idea, as at the very least it allows you to know a few faces before taking the plunge. I just don't see where this notion of Southern furs being arrogant or elitist comes from, I really don't. I blame the internet, to a degree. What with things like Facebook, there's this idea that to be someone's friend you simply have to click "add", yet this doesn't work in the real World, and I feel some people don't seem to realise that.