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Okay, it wasn't MY first football match but it was Wolfie's and it was my first match for about two years. It was also my first away match for over four and it was good to be back amongst the fans again (about five years ago I went to 16 out of our 19 matches away from home in a grand tour of the British Isles).

The atmosphere was great, with constant singing throughout, and there was a great sense of tribal camaraderie that you often get at a football game. I had forgotten just how loyal and passionate our fans are and the sense of community and local pride that is often fostered at such events.

We walked around the ground whilst sampling hot dogs, chips and a goregous meat and potato pie. *noms* There's nothing better (and poorer quality) than football food whilst soaking up the matchday experience. People were selling programmes and Half Time Lucky Draw tickets in broad Barnsley accents. We were told to avoid the black ice by one Barnsley lady whilst my accent brought inquisitive stares from some of the younger Tykes fans. Unfortunately, there was no alcohol being served in or around the ground - a sad and increasingly common situation presumedly done to stop crowd trouble. It's always good to have two or three pints before an afternoon of raucous singing I find and it's a sad case of the minority spoiling it for the rest of us. Still, never mind.

Barnsley's ground is a combination of traditional Victorian and new all-seater stadia. It's set in a valley which had nice views over part of the town. This trapped the noise of the crowd and added to the atmosphere (I say noise of the crowd, the home fans were typically quiet whereas we were extremely noisy).

Before the game, we goaded the Barnsley mascot, a cute sassy brown dog called Toby Tyke. He had a bright black nose. Toby was up for some verbal sparring and darted from the centre circle with the ball before burying it in the empty net. He then celebrated in front of our fans to chants of "Who are ya?!". He turned around, wiggled his bum at the crowd and pointed to the name on the back of his shirt. It was unbelievably cute. He also tried to shake paws with some of our fans but he took his paw away at the last minute. He was such a scamp. All good natured fun.

The match itself was pretty rubbish but then Middlesbrough (my team) have fallen so far in the last four years that I wasn't expecting much. And football is often more about the occasion than the sport so we both still had a really great time - despite us freezing our knackers (and feet - trainers are far from appropriate attire in December) for three hours. Without getting into tactics, we played a 4-5-1 formation and were overrun in midfield against an average Barnsley side. We need to buy and buy well when the January transfer window opens.

We took the lead through a Justin Hoyte cross-cum-shot in the first half that was intended for the penalty area but somehow found the top corner of the net. Cue pandamonium at our end, with strangers hugging each other and dancing on the terraces (terraces in which we stood up for the whole match - something that is now discouraged at the more sanitised stadia in the country. This only added to the atmosphere). At half-time we were 1-0 up, having had the better of the play. In fact, we looked comfortable.

Unfortunately, Boro are a team of two halves and decided to gift Barnsley two goals early in the second period of play. Both came from poor crosses down the left which were deflected around the box before falling to an unmarked player who had the simple task of nodding the ball home. Poor marking, poor defending, typical Boro. After that, we didn't really look like getting into the game and the away crowd got more and more nasty as the game went on. By the end, we had just given up and slumped to a 2-1 defeat. The familar feeling of resignation and disappointment as we trudged out of the stadium was somewhat comforting.

After the game, we took the opportunity to look around the delightful town of Barnsley. There are a lot of pubs there (and very little else) so we settled in one and had a post-match drink (as is tradition) as we waited for the crowd of 18,000 to disperse (the train station was typically busy and there is never any real need to battle through the crowds when an hour later, everyone has gone home). An hour later and after another brief look around - we saw the beautiful town hall building and the fact that the level crossing outside the station makes Barnsley a little like Lincoln - we headed home for pizza and doner meat. Seriously, the amount of crap food I ate yesterday was somewhat unprecedented, even for me.

We both had a good time though - even Wolfie enjoyed it, despite admitting it wasn't really his thing. Still, he got to goad me about our glorious defeat for the entire ride home...

Date: 2009-12-29 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
I miss going to games. :(

Date: 2009-12-29 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
How is Justin Hoyte getting on there?

Date: 2009-12-29 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
He's never really been convincing to be honest. Defensively he is quite poor and even as an attacking wing-back, his crosses just aren't consistent enough. Still, good cross for the goal yesterday (even though it was intended as a cross and not a shot).

Date: 2009-12-29 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
A shame, he's an honest footballer as it were. Neither of the Hoytes really came to much

Date: 2009-12-30 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
Boro are quite used to employing honest footballers who really aren't that good. What makes it worse is that a lot of them are from the Academy and therefore local. Being local almost exonorates being rubbish, which is sad. Hoyte has had a handful of good games but he has failed to convince. I think he is better than McMahon though but that's not saying a lot. Aliadiere is the same regarding your academy.

Date: 2009-12-29 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I hadn't been for so long before yesterday but now I realise what I am missing. The problem is it's quite cost prohibitive and I don't like the Riverside so I am forced into going to away games. The away day experience is something else though. Which team do you support and if you like, feel free to join footballfurs - the LJ group for erm, football furs :P

Date: 2009-12-29 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
Arsenal I'm afraid.... Since about 1974.

Date: 2009-12-30 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I have been to Highbury - the 5-3 game when we lead 3-1 on the hour. It was a good stadium and a great day. Never been to the Emirates though. Do you get there often?

Date: 2009-12-29 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bosn.livejournal.com
What you described is almost identical to a American High School football game. I was reading thinking, yea, like high School but Im sure they can drink. Then I read they don't allow alcohol.

I have a trick I use for going to SF Giant games and also at FC. I love a dark dark beer, so what I do is buy a six pack of plastic bottled Pepsi. Dump out all of the soda a replace it with beer. It works like a charm every time.

Even though they serve Beer at Giant games they can kiss my ass if they think Im paying 11 dollars for it.

Date: 2009-12-29 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
The price of beer (and indeed anything) at such events (sport, music etc) is extortionate. I have smuggled beer into grounds in the past myself. Often, I can just refrain for a few hours - you can buy alcohol but you can't take it on to the terraces so you need to drink it before you take your place in the stadium. That limits consumption really.

Which dark beers do you like? Never been to a US Football game, probably should have done when I lived there.

Date: 2009-12-29 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bosn.livejournal.com
Guinness is my favorite. Extra stout.

Date: 2009-12-29 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I'm a massive fan of Guinness - didn't touch the stuff until March when I went to Dublin for the first time. Got the first pint to try it then went to the Guinness factory where I imbibed every single label they do. Was quite nice but made for drunken arguments at customs when they confiscated my Guinness marmelade.

I quite like Murphy's too but it's not as nice as Guinness.

Date: 2009-12-29 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bosn.livejournal.com
the first time I tried Guinness it was in Cork. My ship pulled in there fro a few weeks. I went to the first pub and asked for their local beer. A girl said "Yank, this isn't a soda pop stand" They all laughed and a guy at the bar bought me a Guinness. I remember watching it come out of the spit, it looked like soft serve ice cream. I took one sip and fell in love. The sarcastic girl at the bars name was Tara and I chat with her off on for the past 20 years.

Date: 2009-12-30 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I have never been to Cork but it seems like a nice place. It's a nice story you tell, I have had similar experiences in various other bars around the world. Those kind of nights make life worth living I feel.

Date: 2009-12-29 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
If you like Guinness, you should come to the Folk festival... there's an entire tent of it.

Date: 2009-12-30 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
Where is the Folk Festival? I do like Guinness, you can get it most places though.

Date: 2009-12-31 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
It's in our (Current) home city of Cambridge.
http://www.cambridgefolkfestival.co.uk
I had a pic similar to this but can't find it...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrbille1/2062329225/
But I do have a collection of photos from the fest..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/harlequeen/collections/72157621831030059/
Edited Date: 2009-12-31 09:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-31 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
Ah yes I know the Cambridge Folk Festival as it's a city I used to live in myself (I went to University there). I have been to the beer festival but not the folk festival as it took place outside of term dates. I have a lot of friends in Cambridge still so I may look into coming down, particularly looking at that Guinness tent. Wow!! *wags*

Date: 2009-12-29 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowtiger-uk.livejournal.com
It sounds like you two are married already :) *hugs*

Date: 2009-12-29 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
It's starting to feel like it lols.

Date: 2009-12-29 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkat.livejournal.com
Ah, Oakwell, been there a few times with varying degrees of success.

I used to enjoy away games and have done more than my fair share - think I got to 72 away grounds all in all. You are right that there's a great feeling of being "in it together". I have fond memories of some crazy away wins, including doing the conga round the away end at Swindon that got Steve MacMahon sacked, and witnessing Richard Johnson volleying in from so far out he was in another postcode at Ashton Gate. Oddly, for as much as it's vaunted as the promised land, I think the Premier League seasons ruined it for me. The away games in the then Division 1 and Division 2 felt more honest, more real, but in the Prem we were generally sneered at with an air of "YOU'RE not supposed to be here, you're a small club", by both fans and, more annoyingly, a lot of the pundits. There were exceptions to that mind you. May well be a cliche, but the Liverpool and Newcastle fans were great, easily my favourite sets of away fans. I used to love the really daft away trips, Plymouth on a Tuesday night in the old division two for example. 500+ mile round trip, it rained, we all got soaked but we won with a goal in the 85th minute, then smiled and tooted our way back up the M5. Pulling into Gordano services at gone midnight for a coffee and exchanging grins with fellow fans was great fun. I miss that part of it, but sadly mortgages and an increasing dislike of the tribalism involved meant I drifted away from going to games, and I think the spell has been broken now. Still get to the odd few each season, but there isn't the same draw for me now. I'm tempted to knock up a list of all the grounds I've been to now :-)

Date: 2009-12-29 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I think I have been to about 25 or so - nowhere near as your hearty total. The Premier League did kill it for me as I found it hard to sum up the excitement when we consistently finished 12th. We had no chance of winning anything so the season was practically over before it had started - we were just there to make up the numbers. The Championship sucks, it's horrible to be in and we are shite at the moment but at least it's a league we have (read had) a genuine chance of winning.

Some of the most bizarre and surreal experiences happen on away trips. I understand your view on tribalism, it's the same reason why I abhor patriotism and nationalism but I guess it's about local pride and values. It helps that I come from a town that is consistently and unfairly maligned by the majority of the populace.

The best away trip I ever went to was either Portsmouth - where we ended up playing beach volleyball in the pub with five Pompey fans - or Blackburn - where a bloke came into the pub dressed as a bear and asked "Does anyone fancy some bear sex?" There is something ridiculously surreal and fantastically enjoyable about screaming, shouting and venting your anger at 11 millionaires and then jumping up and down and hugging random strangers when they score.

My job got in the way over the last few years but now I have quit that, I guess I have more opportunity now (finances pending). Being in the Championship for the first time in 11 years allows me the opportunity to view new grounds and towns but how many I actually do, I don't know. I am looking at Doncaster on 22 January as a potential.

Great stories by the way, thanks for sharing them with me. We must chat about this next time we meet up :)

Date: 2009-12-29 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkat.livejournal.com
I forgot our end of season "Bring a kazoo" relegation party at the Riverside. That confused a few people. I can recall a giant "Watford FC - We're out of your league" banner and lots of balloons. That's the sort of humour I miss these days, as it's just endless punditry and flapping about how much Chelsea or Man City are spending on the next wunderkid. I can safely say that my all time favourite season following Watford was when we won division two in 97/8. Even though I've seen us win at Wembley and Cardiff, that season will always stick in the memory as being utterly brilliant. I can also say I've never been more emotionally drained than after the Penalty shoot-out at St Andrews! That was agony to be at.

Date: 2009-12-30 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
The Watford fans are often amongst the greatest fans in the game because of their random antics. I think Boro fans are up there too and some of the great comedy that comes from banter between fans makes the game so great.

The Out Of Your League banner is one that I remember, I thought it was hilarious when you guys took it to Old Trafford. The Bring A Kazoo day is something that Boro fans would do themselves, I think they really respected and enjoyed that, despite the confusion.

Football is one of those sports that generates (often false) hope and it is this rollercoaster of emotions that I think makes it unique. Other sports I don't think have this as much due to the scoring systems and the way they are played. Football is so low scoring that one decision can change the course of the game and I think this is why a lot of people buy into it.

The punditry annoys me though, largely because it's so ill-informed. It's one of the reasons why I quit my job managing the football websites - all you got was abuse based on flimsy fact if it was based on fact at all. So many football fans are idiots, it's untrue. At least, the ones who write into websites are.

Date: 2009-12-29 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doco.livejournal.com
Football would be a lot nicer without all the rioting and vomiting going on surrounding the games. :P

Date: 2009-12-29 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megadog.livejournal.com
Which is the reason us Brits invented Rugby.

Date: 2009-12-29 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
One quick Internet search demonstrates that there is a fair bit of crowd violence at rugby too. Considering the number of football matches that occur in the country on an almost daily basis, there really isn't that much violence to speak of.

Date: 2009-12-29 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
I've often found that people who've not been to games compain about the violence. It really is pretty rare nowadays. Much less rare than say outside Witherspoons on a Saturday night.

Date: 2009-12-29 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I think this is the key issue. Football basically offers an excuse for people to start drinking six hours earlier than they normally do. This means that any alcohol related violence happens six hours earlier than it normally does. Despite this, I have seen more violence on the streets in general than at football.

Date: 2009-12-29 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] megadog.livejournal.com
My experience is that rugby-games tend to be much the more civilised. Sure, irrespective of who wins you all end up down the pub afterwards - and drink to vast excess. But while you're doing so you're much more likely to find yourself hugging a member of the opposing-team's supporter-crew [and boozily swearing to be his friend forever] than you're ever likely to do in a football-supporter's pub.

Rugby's a game played by [and followed by] gentlemen. Boozy, raucous and deeply lewd we may be, but we can still somehow retain a sense of composure and honour even though we can't stand up!

Date: 2009-12-30 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
I have seen rugby fans behaving inappropriately and have also been in friendly situations with opposing football fans similar to those that you describe. I can think of my trips to Portsmouth and West Ham off the top of my head as being two examples when I have been in the heart of opposing territory and still had a great drink and craic with the fans.

I think if there is a tendency for rugby fans/players to be more gentlemanly (and at university level I know this is definitely NOT the case) then I think it may have more to do with the nature of the games themselves. In rugby, the best team generally wins. However, in football, because it is so low scoring, injustices regarding who wins a match happen more regularly and this may lead to issues.

Date: 2009-12-29 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
There is far less rioting now than there has ever been (the events of August 2009 between West Ham and Millwall aside). As for vomiting, I have been going to games for 13 years and have yet to see it.

Date: 2009-12-29 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harlequeen.livejournal.com
It used to be much worse, back in the good old days people hark back to, urine on the terraces etc. Painful bruising, not from violence but from overcrowding.

Date: 2009-12-29 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinkat.livejournal.com
The only violence I've ever seen at games was before and after several Watford vs Luton matches, which have something of a history. There are those out there who are in it for the fights, but they tend to keep themselves to themselves and seek out like-mindless individuals. Other than above, I've never seen anything actually at a match beyond a few idiots being mouthy. Football has certainly cleaned up its act, on the whole, but there will always be pockets of idiocy.

Date: 2009-12-29 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
You get the usual people being mouthy gobshites but you get that anywhere. I don't think it's more concentrated at football. Yes, there are a few pockets of localised violence here and there on occasions but then there would probably be the same in any group of 30,000 people so closely packed together.

As you say, any real violence is now done away from the ground and with like minded people. Provided no one else is caught up in that, I don't really see the issue.

Date: 2009-12-29 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
All this was pre-Hillsborough. After that, things calmed down and football cleaned up its act. It's now very rare that there is violence in the UK yet the sport is still tarnished for events that happened over 20 years ago.

Date: 2009-12-30 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alaskawolf.livejournal.com
id love to check out a game some time

Date: 2009-12-30 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
You should come although they are varying in quality. If you want to see a good game, go to one involving the big teams. If you want a good atmosphere though, I'd suggest going to games involving teams of a lesser quality.

Date: 2009-12-31 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhaenburger.livejournal.com
What's a Barnsley accent, and how does it compare to your's? Nebulous question I'm sure but I <33333333 british accents, and the differences between all of them.

Date: 2009-12-31 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lupestripe.livejournal.com
A Barnsley accent is more abrahsive and higher than the more gutteral Middlesbrough accent, I would say. We also have different words to mean different things. Both accents have a distinct twang though.

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